Episode 8

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5th Jan 2021

What Comes In When You Create Space With Hayley Gene Penner

Today I share my conversation with Hayley Gene Penner, singer, songwriter, and author of the new memoir People You Follow, which explores Hayley's relationships - from her childhood as the daughter of a celebrity to the coercive relationship with her boss. Hayley's stories of questionable sexual encounters, artistic aspirations, and emotional abuse trace her coming of age in the music industry.

Topics

  • Pretending to be someone else / putting on an act
  • Accessing your value as a partner
  • Expressing anger
  • Being the "cool" girl
  • Having gratitude for all of life's experiences
  • Forgiveness and compassion
  • Re-framing failure and defining success
  • What comes in when you create space
  • Integrating feelings of freedom after escaping from a controlling situation

Links

Link to my Instagram, photography website, podcast website.

As always, thank you to Maytav Koter and Spencer Stewart for the music on my podcast. And to Laura Strohbusch for the podcast graphic.

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Undefined
Exploring identity, practicing authenticity and self-love to become undefined
Where is the boundary between our authentic selves and our conditioned selves? How do we shed the definitions society creates to get back to our core self? What does it mean to be true to yourself?

On Undefined, our host, Marisa Tashman, shares her conversations with thought-leaders, change-makers, and passion-players who have journeyed to return to the core of who they are. Together we explore authenticity, identity, core beliefs, definitions, conditioning and societal programming, social justice, relationships, spirituality, mindfulness, wellness, and self-love.
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Marisa Tashman

Hi, I'm Marisa (insert wave emoji here). Sometimes I feel like I'm pretending. Don't we all? Avoiding authenticity as a defense mechanism or coping tactic to survive in a society that conditions us to be someone. Classic human. In 2020, amidst the never-ending anxiety and over-purchasing of hand sanitizer/lysol wipes/face masks/shields, I created a podcast called Undefined (naturally came up with the name during a soundbath...totally on brand and not surprising to any of you). Undefined is the embodiment of my exploration of identity - my own identity, my guests' identities, and the identities that are thrown upon us all by the amorphous "them" in charge of our world. As a lawyer (i.e., yet another definition I subscribe to), I investigate facts...but the feelings and the deeper truer parts are often left out. I share my conversation with others who are also exploring these questions. Who am I? Where is the boundary between my authentic self and my programmed self? How do I practice more authenticity? What does it mean to be true to yourself?